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The latest on Silver Market Manipulation

November 5, 2011 1 comment

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More than 3 years into an investigation over alleged manipulation in the silver market, the CFTC released the following statement yesterday.

CFTC Statement Regarding Enforcement Investigation of the Silver Markets

Washington, DC – The Commodity Futures Trading Commission today issued the following statement:

“In September of 2008, the Commission announced the existence of an enforcement investigation into the possibility of unlawful acts in silver markets. Since that time, the staff has analyzed over 100,000 documents and interviewed dozens of witnesses and obtained expert advice. It has been a long, detailed, and thorough investigation, and it continues in an appropriate and considered manner.”

Bart Chilton, one of the commissioners of CFTC was interviewed, I believe for the first time by Eric King of KWN yesterday:

I can tell you based on what I have been told by members of the public and reviewed in publicly available documents, I believe that there’s been violations of the law, The Commodity Exchange Act.

What was he told by members of the public that convinced him to believe that the silver market has been illegally manipulated? Probably referring to whistle blower Andrew Maguire’s emails to CFTC in February 2010, Chilton had this to say:

But when people email me and say, ‘You watch the market (silver) between 9:15 and 9:45 tomorrow and it’s going to tank or it’s going to do this or it’s going to do that.’  I hold on to it and I watch the market and what they say happens, and I’m not saying this always happens, but it happens even 50% of the time, 60% of the time, there’s no way that doesn’t raise my antenna, like major, electric antenna goes up.

With the derivatives market on the verge of implosion in the wake of the Eurozone crisis, any further announcement implying JP Morgan et al may well be what’s required to nudge us over the tipping point. The next few weeks/months could turn out to be very interesting times. However, updates will be few and far in between while I’m taking a break in the Andeas until Feb 2011.

Stay prepared.

Update: 

ZeroHedge just reported a very significant event that may affect global markets next week:

… the CME just made the maintenance margin, traditionally about 26% lower than the initial margin for specs, equal. For everything. Which means that by close of business Monday, millions of options and futures holders will be forced to deposit billions in additional capital to the CME just so they are not found to be margin deficient, and thus receive a margin call. Naturally, since it is very unlikely that this incremental amount of liquidity can be easily procured in one business day, we anticipate the issuance of hundreds of thousands of margin calls Monday, followed by forced liquidations of margin accounts across America… and the world. Just like when Lehman blew up, it took 5 days for Money Markets to break. Is this unprecedented elimination in the distinction between initial and maintenance margin the post-MF equivalent of the first domino to fall this time around?

Update:

There’s another update from ZeroHedge based on a clarification from CME following yesterday’s release.

Yesterday, in what is the worst-phrased and most misleading press release to ever come out of the CME, the exchange issued a notice that going forward all Initial margin would be equal to Maintenance margin. Our gut interpretation was that “Unless we are completely reading it incorrectly, it is nothing short of a margin call for tens if not hundreds of billions worth of product.” Judging by the broad response, our initial reaction is what a prudent, logical human being would assume: after all, it is precisely the undercollateralization of customer accounts, and general underfunding at MF Global that is what brought that particular company down. Well, we wrong wrong. The CME, it appears has taken a page right out of the European playbook, and less than a week after an exchange-cum-Primary Dealer collapsed due to excessive risk taking, the CME has followed up its vague press release from yesterday by inviting even more risk in lowering the initial margin. Why is this a cause for even greater concern? As the CME itself says, “Initial margins are set to provide an additional buffer against future losses in the account” - so going forward that buffer has been reduced by about 30%. But what is the reasoning provided by CME: “The intent and effect of these changes is to decrease the size of any margin calls resulting from the bulk transfer of MF Global customers to new clearing members, not to increase them.” So basically the CME is implicitly putting all of its existing and current clients and customers at further risk by onboarding the accounts of those clients who, like lemmings, held on to their MF Global accounts until after it was too late. Because while the lower Initial margin may apply to MF accounts, it will also apply to any Tom, Dick and Harry beginning Monday, who will suddenly see a 30% reduced gating threshold to put on a position. Any position, no matter how risky. Read full report here.

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Why I don’t invest in Precious Metals

October 17, 2011 15 comments

Sharing some thoughts about gold & silver with KH of InvestSilverMalaysia.

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KH (InvestSilverMalaysia): Hi CK Diong. Can you share with us how you started investing in Precious Metals?

CK (PoliticalMetals): I have been staring at this question for quite a while, not knowing how to respond. Fact is, I’ve not invested, and if I did, certainly not in Precious Metals.

I happen to be planning for early retirement around the time of the global financial crisis of 2008. It was so violent and swift that I quickly realized it was no ordinary crisis. That was when I decided to invest considerable time into understanding what actually was going on.

My research convinced me that what happened in 2007/08 was not another of those boom and bust economic cycles which will soon come to past, and that we will all be happily riding the next wave up again. I realized for the first time that what’s ahead of us in the next few years will be unlike anything we’ve seen in the past. The global debt-based monetary system is like a house of cards whose time has come.

Hence, I wanted to play safe and decided to take my retirement savings OUT of this precarious monetary system. I converted paper & electronic money into gold and silver, not as an investment, but as a store of value. I view them as Monetary Metals or Political Metals rather than Precious Metals.

KH: What do you think of investing in silver today?

CK: I don’t understand why anyone, save for the most die-hard speculators, would want to invest in something as volatile as silver. Why would anyone invest in something whose price can drop from $40 to $26 in less than 72 hours? And, if you know who’s behind the curtain making the silver prices so volatile, you’d want to stay away from this investment.

Having said that, I hold a substantial portion of my assets in the form of silver. I don’t invest in it, I just own it, and yes, that makes a lot of difference. I believe it’s a good asset to hold because like gold, it is a monetary metal that is a good store of value and it has no counter-party risk.

KH: What made you start PoliticalMetals.com?

CK: Going by what I’ve just said above, maybe I should just answer “to explain the difference between investing in and owning gold & silver”!

More seriously, PoliticalMetals was set up to educate and prepare readers for the trying times ahead. Being aware of the impending financial turmoil unlike anything we’ve experienced, I wanted to highlight that owning gold and silver is a flight to safety more than a fight for profits, especially for people under similar circumstances as myself.

I also wanted to help expose the political nature of these 2 monetary metals. Understanding that gold and silver are Political Metals (whose prices have been and still are being manipulated and suppressed by governments through their central banks) rather than Precious Metals makes all the difference. If I had viewed buying gold and silver as investments in Precious Metals, I don’t think I would have taken the step to invest my hard earned savings back then when gold was in its 3 digits and silver in its low teens. Why? Because they looked very expensive at that time! As an investment, they looked so risky to me, especially at the nadir of the 2008 crisis.

After I understood them for what they really are – Political Metals and Monetary Metals, there was no turning back, and I just wanted to share this with the wider audience.

KH: What is your view on having physical metals vs paper metals?

CK: Again, if it’s for investment or short term speculation, paper metals are great, provided you are prepared to do battle with professionals. But if you’re buying gold and silver for the reasons I mentioned above, paper metals are the last things you’d want to touch.

KH: What methods would you recommend on buying silver?

CK: That’s a tough one in Malaysia! Bullion (not numismatic) coins or small bars are must-haves despite their high premiums. I think you’ll just have to bite the bullet and pick up some well recognized brands from your trusted dealers. Alternatively, get a few friends to pool together your funds and make a larger order directly from online US dealers who offer much more competitive prices.

For larger amounts, you could consider buying professional-grade bullion bars directly from the London Bullion Market and storing them in private vaults outside the banking system, ie not vaults belonging to banks. You get them at spot price plus a small commission by the dealers and you don’t have to worry about theft. For example, if you’re looking at RM100K, that’s about 30kg of silver. Would you risk storing that at home considering the high break-in rates in Malaysia? Ramp that up and you get the picture.

KH: From your blog, you have done comparison on Precious Metals investment with a few countries. What are the differences you find among these countries?

CK: Generally, premiums are much higher in Malaysia, especially for silver. Since the market is relatively young, many of the dealers are new and small. They may not be able to handle large orders (especially silver) and even if they do, would you trust them with large upfront payments?

In contrast, you get some very established dealers offering much lower premiums in countries where the market is more mature. That’s why I mentioned you should look beyond your borders if you are dealing in larger quantities.

KH: What improvement would you like to see in Malaysia?

CK: Development of a more established network of independent dealers outside the banking system.

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Decoded: Is there Any Gold in Fort Knox?

October 12, 2011 2 comments

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In 1933, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt outlawed the private ownership of gold by American citizens, forcing them to sell any gold bullion in excess of $100 to the Federal Reserve at $20.67 per troy ounce. To store the huge stockpile of confiscated gold, the US Treasury built the United States Bullion Depository at Fort Knox, Kentucky, in 1936. This vault has a 25″ thick casing with a 21″ vault door made of the latest torch and drill resistant material weighing 20 tons.

There must be something very valuable in there to justify this level of security.  Official records say there’s 4,577 metric tons (147.2 million oz. troy) of gold bullion worth over $200 billion at current prices. Of late however, there’s an increasing number of respectable people questioning the notion that the stated amount of gold is actually still there, and if so, that it remains unencumbered.

In this History Channel documentary Decoded, Brad Meltzer attempts to answer the question “Is there any gold in Fort Knox?”. Featuring interviews with notable figures like Chris Powell of GATA,  Law Professor Kevin Goldberg, Senator Dee Huddleston, former US Senator of Kentucky and many more, it’s an eye opener.

Part 1 “What if I told you that Fort Knox is empty.The last time anyone was allowed inside was in 1974. Many experts today believe the soilders stationed here are protecting absolutely nothing.They point to numerous theories to explain their believes.., but if you tell me that no one’s been allowed to see this gold since 1974, I want to know if it’s there and I want to know what else is inside. It is time to decode Fort Knox.”

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Part 2 Craig Hulet, a returning veteran charged with issuing weapons to guards at Fort Knox was told by his Officer In Charge not to issue any ammunition because there was no gold inside. As for potential armed intruders - there’s a policy of “Let them in and zip them up”.A Financial Engineer from Princeton who spoke on condition of anonymity discusses the implications of an empty Fort Knox. He compares his work on financial derivatives at Wall Street to the Manhattan Project.

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Part 3-

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Is there Gold in Fort Knox?

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Disconnect Between Paper & Physical Prices And What We Can Do About It.

October 7, 2011 12 comments

Since the recent price take down, we’re inundated by stories of retail buyers not being able to buy physical coins and bars at the ridiculously low spot prices painted by the paper futures markets. For those fortunate enough to get their hands on any physical bullion, it will be at relatively large premiums over spot with long delivery lead times. The disconnect is growing with each dramatic take-down..

“Sold Out”

KH of InvestSilverMalaysia reported that,

Back in Malaysia, it has been a wild ride. With the recent collapse of gold & silver prices, PM suddenly becomes very hot. Lowyat is having comments like 5 pages/per day ever since that crash. Physical silver bullion dealers are not selling. They are either: holding up the stock or, stock have been completely drained. Replenishing takes 2-3 wks. Even so, many bigger supplier from the states are having the same problem too! Too many orders! I am guessing even those at the top of the food chain are having problem processing massive orders. Many smaller local websites just shut down - refusing to take orders. 1cheapsilver has yet to recover from that 26-dollar-fall. It is really a war zone here.

Here’s what greeted him at UOB when he personally went there to buy his gold bullion. Read his story here.

Here’s another story along the same line from the UAE, courtesy of ArabianMoney.

Several readers of ArabianMoney have written to us over the past two weeks to express their astonishment at the current price of silver because demand where they live is so high that stocks have run out.

Consider this comment: ‘I used to buy silver from a shop in Kobar in Saudi. From the last four weeks they said they ran out of silver. I cannot find anyone who sells silver in Saudi now. I asked them from where do they get their silver. They said the UAE. The problem is they only have 1kg bars…and I still cannot find any supplier.’

No stock

Well don’t bother coming to the UAE. Our information is that the 1kg bars mentioned here and featured in a video on the website last month (click here) are all sold out too. We’ve also had feedback about low or no stock in Texas and Australia from big private bullion dealers there.

Now what would normally happen when a commodity is in short supply is that the price would go up to encourage sellers to put some more into the market. That is presently not happening because the silver price is being artificially suppressed in the Comex futures market by the bullion banks acting on instructions from the Fed presumably, so why would you sell that silver cheaply if you happened to own some?

But something has to give and it is the price of physical silver rather than the Comex price of the shiniest of metals. If you can find any silver these days you will pay quite a substantial premium over the spot price. But pay it because that is probably still a bargain compared to where silver prices are going.

The truth is that silver is a rare metal, more rare than gold. Silver reserves have been estimatated at one-hundredth of gold reserves. Silver is after all consumed by industrial processes and reserves have dwindled over the years because the price has been kept so low for so long by market manipulation. Why is that?

Silver price fixing

This market manipulation dates back to the last silver boom of the late 70s and the spectacular $50 spike in the price in 1980. The central banks then saw suppression of the silver and gold price as a part of their war on inflation. They clearly lost that war but kept gold and silver prices down until this decade.

Thirty-one years later and we are still not back to those silver prices despite a seven-fold increase in the global money supply. On that reckoning silver ought to be $350 an ounce, not $30 today.

However, the snap back for silver prices now has the capacity to be sensational, and far beyond the mini-spike in the first few months of this year from $30 to almost $50 again. So those who go seeking out physical silver to buy at current prices are going to be very well rewarded and soon, not in 31 years!

ArabianMoney continues to stick with silver as our top tip for 2011 (click here) and that means a big rebound in the price before the end of the year.

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.. and watch what the Chinese are doing

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It is evident from the stories above that trying to catch the absolute intermediate bottoms during corrections and expecting to buy physical bullion at those prices may be illusionary. So, if there are no gold vending machines nearby, what can the ordinary man on the street do to take advantage of the recent violent take-downs (expect more to come) and the increasingly volatile paper gold & silver prices? Consider these 2 options.

(1) Cost averaging

While there’s a possibility that that PMs prices may be forced to step into the elevator shaft yet again, the probability of that happening is anyone’s guess. For serious savers who understand that physical bullion is the only financial asset with no counter-party risks and that the fundamentals for owning PMs have not deteriorated one bit, the recent market intervention by the Powers That Be (PTB) should be viewed as a generous gift and an opportunity to start (or continue) accumulating on a cost averaging basis.  Here’s an excellent article on Ounce Cost Averaging buying strategy.

(2) Buy bullion like a professional

Retail buyers of physical bullion are so very far down the food chain that it’s very difficult to take full advantage of the sharp (deep and fast) drop in paper prices. This has driven some to consider PM derivatives like ETFs and pooled accounts. While these vehicles offer the advantage of capturing the narrow window of opportunity presented during price smashing operations by the PTB, the danger lies in the fact that these players end up buying and owning paper claims to PMs instead of owning the real thing. Living in the current financial system teetering on the verge of collapse, the more prudent among us would like to stay away from these investments carrying counter-party risks.

That leads us to the option of buying and owning physical bullion like professionals do - at the London Bullion Market. Of course we can’t do that directly. The way around is to use the services of established bullion dealers that act as the only middleman between us and the London Bullion Market. BullionVault, GoldMoney and AFE are 3 of the more reputable companies in this industry I’m familiar with, and they are reviewed here.

Learn more about buying and storage options, including discussions about Allocated Bullion Accounts in the comments section.

Updated: Oct 9

GoldMoney to Close all Dutch Accounts by 31 October 2011

September 28, 2011 9 comments

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In February this year, ZeroHedge reported that the Dutch Central Bank obtained a court order forcing a pension fund (SPVG) to sell the bulk of its gold assets.

The Reason? That gold is a commodity (not money), and that SPVG holding more than 13% of its assets in gold was not in the interest of the pension fund participants. Ridiculous as it sounds, the Dutch Central Bank has a say in how pension funds manage their gold investments.

Perhaps the most stunning example of what may be in store for asset managers and pension funds (and possibly retail holders) who dare to challenge central bank monetary authority comes from the Netherlands, where we have just witnessed the 21st century equivalent of Executive Order 6102. The story in a nutshell (and as translated loosely from the primary source presented below): the glassworkers pension fund (SPVG) was ordered by De Nederlandsche Bank (DNB, or the equivalent of the Dutch central bank), that it has to sell the bulk of its gold assets.

After the SPVG refused to comply with the order, the DNB went to court and the decision has come out, siding with the central bank, ordering the SPVG to sell the required gold within two months. The pension fund, which invests for 1142 employees, in late 2009 had gold bars worth 34.6 million euros, or about 1400 kilograms. The total fund assets amounted to 288 million euros at that time. The DNB argued gold is a commodity and holding 13 percent was overweight in comparison to the 2.7% average that pension funds are invested in commodities.

DNB has found that such a large proportion of gold is inconsistent with the interests of the participants. SPVG sees gold as a medium of exchange, such as euros, but DNB believes that the price of gold fluctuates too much for it to be classified as an investment.

Translation of the translation: the central bank has now directly ordered a fund how to allocate its gold assets, because it explicitly disagreed with the fund’s statement that gold is money, claiming instead that it is nothing but a very volatile commodity. Very soon no pension funds in the Netherlands will be allowed to hold any amount of gold more than the merely nominal. This latest gold confiscation equivalent event is most certainly coming to a banana republic near you.

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Today, GoldMoney announced that it has been forced to close all Dutch accounts for “offering investment objects in the Netherlands without a licence”. Looks like the Dutch authorities are going all out to make it difficult for ordinary folks to use gold as a store of value. I’m curious why there has been no similar notices from BullionVault. Why should one be affected while the other is not? What did they do differently?

Dear Valued Customer,

It is with tremendous regret that I am writing to inform you of our recent decision to discontinue offering our services to all customers resident in the Netherlands. Please note, we at GoldMoney have explored all possible options to prevent this outcome, and this is not a decision we have taken lightly. This position is unique to the Netherlands, and unfortunately because you are resident in the Netherlands, you are one of those affected, which we very much regret. Kindly allow me to explain our position:

On 27 January 2011, we were contacted by the Autoriteit Financiële Markten (AFM), the Netherlands financial regulator, which indicated that, in its view, GoldMoney was “offering investment objects in the Netherlands without a licence” in breach of Section 2:55 of the Netherlands Financial Supervision Act (Wet op het financieel toezicht, Wft). At the end of 2010, the AFM first announced publicly its policy viewpoint that investments in precious metals could – under certain circumstances – be characterised as offering of investment objects. The AFM demanded that we cease to do so until we agreed to subject our business to their regulation by applying for a licence as an offeror of investment objects within the meaning of Section 2:55 Wft. Although we disagreed with the AFM’s assessment, we voluntarily offered to stop accepting new Netherlands-resident customers as of 1 February 2011 until we could resolve this matter with the AFM.

We have dedicated the last few months to working with our Netherlands lawyers to present our case to the AFM, namely that precious metals are not included within the concept of “investment objects” regulated by the AFM, and that, in any case, Netherlands regulation is not applicable to GoldMoney because we do business in Jersey, rather than within the Netherlands. Unfortunately, we have been unsuccessful in changing the AFM’s view on this matter. As we do not want to subject ourselves, and by extension our customers, to unnecessary and unpredictable regulatory requirements, we have reached the difficult conclusion that the only way to resolve this situation is to cease all business with Netherlands-resident customers.

We intend to resolve this issue and return to doing business with residents in the Netherlands in the future. Should this be the case we will make an announcement. But in the meantime, unfortunately, I am very sorry to inform you that we are unable to offer you our services any longer. Subject to article 10-A of our Customer Agreement, we will require you to close your GoldMoney Holding. This is to occur no later than the close of business on Monday 31 October 2011.

We have outlined below a number of possible options for how you may liquidate your current position, including the physical delivery of small gold bars to your home address or a sale to cash with a free transfer of the proceeds to your bank account.

By offering you the option to take physical delivery of your gold, we hope to fulfil your expectations with regards to the physical ownership of your metals. We thank you for your business and the trust you have placed in us.

Sincerely,
Geoff Turk
CEO – GoldMoney

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While Dutch customers may conveniently take possession of their physical gold instead of liquidating them in light of the recent sharp fall in price, no mention was made regarding silver. Going by their terms of service, “You can also take delivery of silver bars, provided you have at least 30,000 ounces of silver, which is roughly one pallet of thirty 1,000 ounce bars“, Dutch customers holding less than about US$1M worth of silver at today’s prices would be forced to liquidate at the worst possible time ever.

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Credit where credit is due

September 24, 2011 9 comments

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“When you own gold you’re fighting every central bank in the world”. Jim Rickards

To a great extend, that holds true for silver as well. This week, holders of Political Metals lost a battle, but certainly not the war. Measured against the USD, gold and silver are worth less compared to a week ago by 9.6% and 26.3% respectively.

It all started with Ben Bernanke’s statement, following the 2-day FOMC meeting, stating the obvious - that “there are significant downside risks to the economic outlook, including strains in global financial markets”. His antidote was a plan to purchase $400 billion of long-term Treasury bonds and to sell an equivalent amount of short-term debt. More commonly referred to as “Operation Twist 2″, this plan seeks to further reduce long term interest rates, after having pledged to hold short term rates practically at zero until 2013.

That announcement, made in the backdrop of the Eurozone debt crisis and news of slower growth in China, sent global stocks and commodity markets into a waterfall decline. This set up was ideal for the bullion banks who have massive gold and silver short positions. All they needed to do was to pull the trigger, and that’s exactly what they did on Thursday. Silver was pushed down sharply through its key 50 and 200 day moving averages, triggering an avalanche of tech funds selling the following day.

Going for the final kill of the week, news of yet another margin hike by CME (gold by 21%, silver by 16%) leaked into the market towards the end of Friday’s trading day. That further fuelled the selling, pushing silver briefly below $30 before closing at $31.08 - down 26.3% for the week.

In other markets this week, the Dow suffered its biggest loss since 2008. In four days U.S. stocks lost $1.1 trillion in value.  The MSCI all-country world share index (tracking thousands of stocks from developed and emerging countries) recorded its second worst quarter in 23 years and the 30-year bond rates dropped 55bps - the biggest move since the 1987 Black Monday.

So there you have it, Dr. Ben Bernanke, bullion banks & CME working together in perfect harmony. I don’t believe for a moment that the resulting market turmoil was any surprise to Bernanke. Despite saying that gold is not money, he’s smarter than most people made him out to be. After all, he achieved an SAT score of 1590 out of 1600, graduated from Harvard and has a PhD in economics from MIT. Contrary to its statutory mandate of foster maximum employment and price stability, this market turmoil I believe is a piece of precision engineering to achieve some larger agenda. This round is yours, congratulations Ben!

This engineered global markets take down could be part of the deflationary phase that Mike Maloney talked about, which is a prelude to the hyper-inflation phase. They have to assist the bullion banks cover their shorts and bring the Political Metals price down to a lower base before starting the next round of QE or equivalent. Marc Faber told ThomsonReuters that “if the S&P drops to around 900-950, we’ll get QE3 for sure”.

Four ways to view the developments over the past week

If you’re reading this blog, you’re not a professional or a day trader, possibly someone already invested in gold or silver, someone holding some Political Metals (I distinguish between investing & holding here) or someone in the process of researching the matter. As non professional traders, we have to look through and not at the turmoil unfolding before us. All of the bloody carnage above are on “paper” or bits on silicon - illusionary financial derivatives of something tangible (like gold and silver) or derivatives of something totally virtual and non-physical (like interest rates, bonds, debts, CDS, etc). Real or imaginary, they are all derivatives backed by nothing more than a promise or lies of a third party.

Unfortunately, in so far as gold & silver is concerned, the outcome of the imaginary paper price wars above gets applied to the physical world. Price discovery currently comes from the paper derivatives market. Banks and multi billion dollar hedge funds throwing thousands of futures contracts or bets at each other (most of which are done through computerised High Frequency Trading algorithms) determine the price of the coin or bar you pick up at your local bullion dealers. Until such time when this absurd situation of the tail wagging the dog changes, I suggest 4 possible ways for you to view the developments over the past week, using silver as an example.


There’s a big difference between Investing(1) & Holding(2). If you adopt approach (1), and are smart enough to handle scenario (3), congratulations! Trading this dip or swapping silver for gold just before the GSR shot over 56 would have reaped a handsome return. After years of following newsletter writers, both paid and free, I came to the conclusion that attempting to achieve (3) is at best illusionary, and at worst risky. This is particularly true in a manipulated market. Take a look at some of the forecasts by well respected industry players here. Either they missed this week’s price action or are not telling us something. Richard Russell puts it this way:

I look at gold and silver, not as a play for profits, but as an accumulation of hard assets, in a world that it drowning in fiat money, and a world that will probably print trillions more of irredeemable paper.

Finally, if you’ve been waiting patiently (4) or have spare dry powder, congratulations! While the paper price of gold & silver gets whacked, physical demand is very strong. KWN reported that Sprott Money temporarily runs out of physical silver. So, get ready to pick up your discount. Not necessarily immediately, but then again, picking the absolute bottom can also be illusionary. Best industry advise is cost averaging.

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